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Last Thursday, [ profile] venta - and here I quote - "had a fabulous idea. Everyone likes lyrics quizzes, right ? Well, nearly everyone. But they take time to write...

So, what we need is the self-writing lyrics quiz. But that's not the kind of thing that automated systems are good at. Instead, how about a cooperative effort where everyone does a little bit ? You fill in one lyric in the poll below, you fill in the answer, and by tomorrow we'll have enough for a proper quiz (and everyone will get at least one correct). I'll post it up on Friday afternoon, which is the right and proper time for such timewasting nonsense.

  • Be correct. At least have a little google and make sure you've got the words right.
  • Don't be too obscure. Even if that band from Brighton are brilliant, don't use a line of theirs if there's not a good chance that a decent number of people will have heard of it."
The idea was indeed a fabulous one, but in practice, the finished article turned out to be unexpectedly, disappointingly difficult. We were idly kicking around concepts of scoring systems in the comments. Let's give it a go as a punchy one-shot.

Here's the simple version of the rules. This is a two-stage game. In the first stage, suggest a song lyric that you believe about two-thirds of entrants to the game will be able to identify. In the second stage, which will probably start on Friday, identify as many lyrics correctly as you can, and suggest which lyric (apart from your own) was your favourite. You score points for correctly identifying song lyrics, points for having your lyric identified by as close to two-thirds the number of entrants as possible, and points for having your lyric named as other people's favourite. That's it. Simples.

No more lyrics, please; the first stage has concluded.

Poll #1040 Distributed Easy Lyrics Quiz: lyric me, do!
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: Just the Poll Creator, participants: 6

What is your easy lyric for the Distributed Easy Lyrics Quiz?

From where does your easy lyric come?

Full version of the rules: In the first stage of the game, you should submit a song lyric and name its source. It is in your interest to name the source correctly, because you stand to benefit from having your song correctly identified. You do not need to specify the artist, because of the UN Security Council Resolution on the issue of cover versions in lyrics quizzes. We're also not going to be terribly pedantic about spelling and punctuation of titles. Please submit your lyric and source through the Dreamwidth poll if you have a choice, but the LiveJournal poll would be my second preference and e-mail is available as a third preference. I may cap the quiz at thirty lyrics. In the second stage of the game, you should identify as many lyrics as you can and it is in your interest to identify them correctly. Again, use the DW poll if you can, then the LJ poll, then e-mail. One entry per player, please, even if you have both LJ and DW accounts or multiple accounts.

Scoring comes in three categories. In the identification category, you score one point for each lyric you identify correctly. In the setting category, you score whichever is less of either one point per player who correctly identifies your lyric or two points per player who does not correctly identify your lyric. (As an example, if there are 12 players, if 3 of them solve your lyric correctly and thus 9 do not, you score 3 points because three is less than twice nine; if 6 of them solve your lyric correctly and 6 do not, you score 6 points; ifa perfect 8 of them solve your lyric correctly and 4 do not, you score 8 points by either consideration; if 9 of them solve your lyric correctly and 3 do not, you only score 6 points because twice 3 is less than 9; if all 12 of them solve your lyric correctly and nobody solves it incorrectly, you score 0 points.) In the quality category, you score one point for each player who names your lyric as their favourite, though you lose all your points and more for being a silly goose and naming your own lyric as your favourite.

Style guide: This is intended to be an easy lyrics quiz, simply because hard lyrics quizzes are less fun for more people, and the scoring system will hopefully make it worth your while to submit an easy lyric - though not one so easy that everyone knows it! Judging two-thirds is the tricky part - and, hopefully, the fun part. Normally lyrics quiz participants are pretty self-selecting, but I'm hoping that me touting EASY EASY EASY about will help more modest participants dip their feet into the water. The tricky thing is that the range of potential competitors is considerable; my Friends list is global, though mostly has people with English as a first language. Some are young, others are less young; some identify as women, others identify as men; some are geeky, others are not quite sure what they're doing here.

In the second stage of the game, you can deliberately answer your own lyric incorrectly if you like, though it's probably unwise. I will announce who submitted which lyric and how many got each lyric correct, but not who got what correct. However, I will report each person's nomination for favourite lyric submitted, because that's fun. I will issue a full list of participants along with their scores for the top half of finishers, and a list of participants with only a general indication of scores for the lower half of finishers, so don't worry about entering and doing badly. I will be playing - but, because you've told me all the answers, as a courtesy I will deliberately answer everything incorrectly and thus save everyone else from coming last.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-20 06:50 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I would have never thought to use the "clever, but not too clever" scoring thing from Barbarossa in a quiz like this. Well done!

-TLEberle on livejournal

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Date: 2009-08-20 03:44 pm (UTC)
addedentry: (lost)
From: [personal profile] addedentry
I first encountered the idea of the self-regulating score at an Invariants quiz night organised by [ profile] fivemack, which [personal profile] chris might remember. I approve of it.

Ooh, that's a bit mean

Date: 2009-08-20 07:32 am (UTC)
undyingking: (Default)
From: [personal profile] undyingking
... the way that you can't fill in, or even see, the poll on here unless you're a logged-in DW user.

Re: Ooh, that's a bit mean

Date: 2009-08-20 09:18 am (UTC)
pseudomonas: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
Doesn't OpenID login let you do it?

Re: Ooh, that's a bit mean

Date: 2009-08-20 09:45 am (UTC)
undyingking: (Default)
From: [personal profile] undyingking
I don't know of a way to be generically 'logged in' using OpenID, such that you could see and complete the poll -- I've only used it for posting comments, and then you get asked your OpenID credentials just at the point of submitting the comment.

I'm no expert tho!

Re: Ooh, that's a bit mean

Date: 2009-08-20 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Pop up to the login box, and next to the 'forgot passwd' link there's a linke which says 'Open ID?' Click that, then fill in the box in the middle of the page, and hey presto - you're logged in and you can fill in polls.

Re: Ooh, that's a bit mean

Date: 2009-08-20 01:33 pm (UTC)
undyingking: (Default)
From: [personal profile] undyingking
Ah, clever, thanks!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-20 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
By the way, Chris... I've been largely no noticing DreamWidth, but I must congratulate you on your extraordinary username-snaffling skills :)


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